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Vetta 2.03 Direct Outs - Part 1... 21-02-2005

Vetta features Direct Outs and microphone simulations. Underneath some audio samples of these D.O.'s and Mic. simulations feeded with the same source so you can hear the differences yourself.

Everyones hearing is different so we all hear the same sound differently as a result. Knowing this makes every discussion on what is or sounds right, and what isn't subjective. In other words it's only objective, to just the one person who's judging it...

The Vetta amp also has a re-amping feature. This means you can have the same 'orginal' signal recorded with different amps, effects, mic sims etc. In the underneath report, done by James Troska (ION Forum member) he used this feature to have an overview on how the different D.O. (Direct Out's) sound when feeded with the same source.

In his initial report he mentions 3rd party software, the name has been altered.


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Source: James Troska / Vettaville.nl

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Vetta 2.03 Direct Outs - Part 2... 21-02-2005

Here's a comparison of some of the various mic / direct options we have for reproducing the sounds of our Vettas. Real mics, 2 of Line6's mic sims, and 2 of 3rd party enhanced D.O.s. To be fair, I used the Vetta II's reamping feature to pump the same performance into the same patch over and over. Each time, I tracked a different D.O. option or mic.


1. The real microphones.

I used two SM57s--One on each speaker. I placed the mic right up on the grille because I think this is the sound Line6 tried to emulate with their sims.


James Troska's Verdict: Of all the options we have, I feel the real mics capture the true sound of the amp best.

 

2. The real microphones, just one SM57 mic recording.

This second sample is one SM57 mic pointed dead center between the two speakers at a distance of 2.5 inches from the grille (yes, I actually measured it).


James Troska's Verdict:
This technique works way better than I had predicted. I really didn't think it was going to work, but I think it's better than a lot of the D.O. options we have in Vetta.


3. Line6's "SM57" simulation.

This is Line6's attempt to emulate the mic we used in sample 1.


James Troska's Verdict: It's pretty much impossible to judge the accuracy. We have no idea what mic position Line6 modeled. If I moved my mics just one inch in the previous sample, I would have ended up with completely different results. It does seem too "scooped" and boomy to me, though.


4. Line6's MD421 Off Axis simulation.

This has always been my favorite of the Line6 mic sims.


James Troska's Verdict:
Very convincing. It's still a teeny bit more boomy than my SM57s, but I think a casual listener would believe it's a real amp miced up.

 

5. Line6's MD421 On Axis simulation.

This has always been my favorite of the Line6 mic sims.


James Troska's Verdict:
The Line6 one is just too boomy for me. I like their "OFF Axis" sim better but everybody will have their own opinion.


6. 3rd party D.I.1

This 3rd party software didn't want to emulate a mic at all -- They're going for the true sound of the Vetta speaker.


James Troska's Verdict:
Again, it's very hard to judge the accuracy. The room and where we stand makes such a difference to how we perceive the sound. To me, the real SM57s did the best job of sounding like the amp. But I adjusted the mic position to sound like how I hear my Vetta. And Armin tweaked his filters to sound like how they hear their Vetta.


7. 3rd party D.I.2

This 3rd party software didn't want to emulate a mic at all -- They're going for the true sound of the Vetta speaker.


James Troska's Verdict: I like this one better than D.I.1. It is full-bodied without being boomy. And it has a balanced and clear sound. To my ears, it's a little more raspy than how I hear my Vetta speakers. But it offers probably the most clarity of any of the options.

 


Conclusion.

Opinions will undoubtedly vary. Personally, I like my guitars to sound like a brick-wall backdrop behind the singer. I would choose the real mic because it provides the sense of depth and space I need to create that soundscape.

If a real mic wasn't available, I'd either pick Line6's MD421 Off Axis sim or 3rd aprty's D.I.2. The MD421 sim provides a similar sense of depth and size as the real mic. People who want their guitars in the forefront will probably like 3rd party's D.I.2, which offers a smaller but really clear and balanced up front sound.


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Source: James Troska / vettaville.nl

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Vetta - Vetta V 2.03, Direct Out's and Mic Sims... 21-02-2005

Vetta features Direct Outs and microphone simulations. Underneath some audio samples of these D.O.'s and Mic. simulations feeded with the same source so you can hear the differences yourself.

Everyones hearing is different so we all hear the same sound differently as a result. Knowing this makes every discussion on what is or sounds right, and what isn't subjective. In other words it's only objective, to just the one person who's judging it...

The Vetta amp also has a re-amping feature. This means you can have the same 'orginal' signal recorded with different amps, effects, mic sims etc. In the underneath report, done by James Troska (ION Forum member) he used this feature to have an overview on how the different D.O. (Direct Out's) sound when feeded with the same source.

In his initial report he mentions 3rd party software, the name has been altered.


 

Here's a comparison of some of the various mic / direct options we have for reproducing the sounds of our Vettas. Real mics, 2 of Line6's mic sims, and 2 of 3rd party enhanced D.O.s. To be fair, I used the Vetta II's reamping feature to pump the same performance into the same patch over and over. Each time, I tracked a different D.O. option or mic.


1. The real microphones.

I used two SM57s--One on each speaker. I placed the mic right up on the grille because I think this is the sound Line6 tried to emulate with their sims.


James Troska's Verdict: Of all the options we have, I feel the real mics capture the true sound of the amp best.

 

2. The real microphones, just one SM57 mic recording.

This second sample is one SM57 mic pointed dead center between the two speakers at a distance of 2.5 inches from the grille (yes, I actually measured it).


James Troska's Verdict:
This technique works way better than I had predicted. I really didn't think it was going to work, but I think it's better than a lot of the D.O. options we have in Vetta.


3. Line6's "SM57" simulation.

This is Line6's attempt to emulate the mic we used in sample 1.


James Troska's Verdict: It's pretty much impossible to judge the accuracy. We have no idea what mic position Line6 modeled. If I moved my mics just one inch in the previous sample, I would have ended up with completely different results. It does seem too "scooped" and boomy to me, though.


4. Line6's MD421 Off Axis simulation.

This has always been my favorite of the Line6 mic sims.


James Troska's Verdict:
Very convincing. It's still a teeny bit more boomy than my SM57s, but I think a casual listener would believe it's a real amp miced up.

 

5. Line6's MD421 On Axis simulation.

This has always been my favorite of the Line6 mic sims.


James Troska's Verdict:
The Line6 one is just too boomy for me. I like their "OFF Axis" sim better but everybody will have their own opinion.


6. 3rd party D.I.1

This 3rd party software didn't want to emulate a mic at all -- They're going for the true sound of the Vetta speaker.


James Troska's Verdict:
Again, it's very hard to judge the accuracy. The room and where we stand makes such a difference to how we perceive the sound. To me, the real SM57s did the best job of sounding like the amp. But I adjusted the mic position to sound like how I hear my Vetta. And Armin tweaked his filters to sound like how they hear their Vetta.


7. 3rd party D.I.2

This 3rd party software didn't want to emulate a mic at all -- They're going for the true sound of the Vetta speaker.


James Troska's Verdict: I like this one better than D.I.1. It is full-bodied without being boomy. And it has a balanced and clear sound. To my ears, it's a little more raspy than how I hear my Vetta speakers. But it offers probably the most clarity of any of the options.

 


Conclusion.

Opinions will undoubtedly vary. Personally, I like my guitars to sound like a brick-wall backdrop behind the singer. I would choose the real mic because it provides the sense of depth and space I need to create that soundscape.

If a real mic wasn't available, I'd either pick Line6's MD421 Off Axis sim or 3rd aprty's D.I.2. The MD421 sim provides a similar sense of depth and size as the real mic. People who want their guitars in the forefront will probably like 3rd party's D.I.2, which offers a smaller but really clear and balanced up front sound.

 


 

Dry Guitar and Vetta Patch Used

This is the dry guitar sound used to drive the patch with Vetta II's reamping feature Note that pan this mono track hard left and set my Vetta to input from only the left side of the s/pdif during reamping. I find going down the middle (left and right) messes up the level. But I've also found that Cubase sometimes messes with the levels during a file export so this MP3 may be at a different level than originally recorded.

The patch used for this test is created by James Troska and is called Electric Blue

 


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Source: James Troska / vettaville.nl

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POD xt Patches for Atomic ... 19-02-2005

 Enough said here are approx. 128 specially designed patches for use with the Atomic Amp 112 loaded with the Line 6 PODxt inside. The patches are designed with Studio/Direct Mode.

The patches are bundled and can be opened with Line 6 Edit. Download the patches and (if not already) associate them with Line 6 Edit. Open the left Tonelocker window and see the folder AtomicPODxtBundle 02-19-2005. Double click on it and select the Tones, doubleclick on it and voila, here they are the PODxt tones for use with your Atomic 112.

 


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Source: Andy Z - used with permission

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Documents - Duoverb - Settings Sheet... 16-02-2005

Duoverb

Here's a new and usefull Duoverb settings sheet. This is made by "Henry Seely".You can download it as a .pdf file.


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Source: Henry Seely / vettaville.nl

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Workbench - Variax Workbench Teaser... 13-02-2005

Line 6 has kindly given Nathan Shane (creator of the original Vettaville.com permission to publically release a Workbench video which he created. It is only a semi-lengthy video teaser at best and doesn't cover all the aspects of Workbench. He purposefully chose to make the video close to the "actual-size" of Workbench so that you would still be able to read the software's text.

This video teaser was not necessarily created for online streaming, so I suggest you (right-click and save-target-as) download the video to your hard drive. I was able to keep the video quality very good, while keeping the file size just a little over 5MB...so it's a small download.

And for those who happen to be curious about such things, yes, that is my voice doing the narration. And the background song is one I literally made up on the spot and recorded in a few simple takes...it's nothing fancy, but it has a good groove to it.

Enjoy...and please be patient everyone. Workbench will well be worth the wait.


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Source: vettaville.com

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Workbench - Update... 08-02-2005

Sorry for the delay, but we’d rather it be right than on time, for all of our sakes. When we started working on it we discovered some things in the basic Variax software architecture that would have to be changed for the combination of the guitar and software program to work the way they should, so a good deal of the time has been revisiting just what Variax does at its most basic level to make sure the Workbench would be able to give you the power and flexibility that you want.

To a certain extent, Variax itself has been rebuilt from the ground up (at least on a software level), which means a whole separate level of testing and verification beyond just what the Workbench software does. The upside of this is that things will work better - the downside is that it takes more time. We’re just starting to go into the final testing stages, so there is light at the end of a tunnel that ended up being somewhat longer than we had expected or hoped.

You'll have to update Variax software to use Workbench, but that would have happened anyway. As to release dates, etc. there's no saying yet, but at least the end of the development cycle is in sight.

Workbench initial release will support V500, V700 Electric, and V300. Acoustic and bass support are somewhere down the line. There's not much chance of electric models on acoustic (or vice versa).


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Source: Line 6 / vettaville.nl

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